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By all means, truth.

"What would be the most ridiculous way you can imagine us being remembered?"

Date: 2015-01-19 12:29 am (UTC)From: [personal profile] wings_of_a_swan
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"The most ridiculous? That's a difficult question. Ridiculousness comes in near-infinite varieties. I need only look at my friends to see examples." This, with a pointed look at Bahorel's clothes. "And it is not easy to judge which form of ridiculousness is the greatest. But in my view, the most ridiculous way would be a false way--if someone knew our names and the basic facts of our lives, but missed or misconstrued certain key details."

Combeferre is curious. "Why do you ask?"

Date: 2015-01-19 05:47 am (UTC)From: [personal profile] wings_of_a_swan
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Combeferre blinks. "No, I haven't. Hugo? Victor Hugo? What on earth did he write about us?"

Combeferre isn't particularly fond of Hugo's work, despite Prouvaire's defenses of him. But he will concede that it has some merit.

Date: 2015-01-19 06:36 am (UTC)From: [personal profile] wings_of_a_swan
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Combeferre takes the book.

"What, about us in particular? And how can he say we had nothing against Louis-Philippe? We revolted against him--well, not only him, not him personally, but the injustices of his government, and of the society that produced him." Louis-Philippe was not a cruel man, nor a wicked one. But tyranny was tyranny, and ignorance was ignorance.

The book is enormous. Combeferre is used to medical tomes, large and bulky, but for a work of fiction, this is far more verbose than the usual. "Hugo never did stint himself with words," he said, feeling the weight of the book in his hands.

It opens, easily, to the marked off portion entitled Les Amis de L'ABC. And then he reads the list of names, so familiar and so dear, and his heart can't help quicken.

Until he gets to Enjolras's description, and stops short. "My God," Combeferre says, in disgust. "I suppose it was very important to inform posterity of Hugo's opinion on Enjolras's face and form, was it?"
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Date: 2015-01-19 07:03 am (UTC)From: [personal profile] wings_of_a_swan
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Combeferre's own lip curls in disgust as he finishes reading the paragraph on Enjolras. He is not happy with Hugo's description of his friend. The parts that are not wholly superficial are, Combeferre feels, rather one-sided.

Next comes his own description, which he finds excessively flattering, and also rather strange--an angel with the wings of a swan? Was Hugo drunk?

At Courfeyrac's description, Combeferre takes a moment to look up this "Tholomyès" character, and then clenches his jaw. "How dare Hugo compare Courfeyrac to this Tholomyès," Combeferre says aloud. "I know he's only doing it to contrast them, but nevertheless--this other fellow isn't even superficially similar! He isn't even witty."

The others aren't so bad. Bahorel's is verging on inspired, actually. Combeferre looks around Bahorel's rooms, which had struck him as extremely red when he walked in. Now he sees the wall paintings, most of which are either unintelligible or obscene-masquerading-as-classical. Combeferre looks at Bahorel. "Your work?" He gestures at a particularly well-endowed satyr.

He turns back to the book, and then arrives at Grantaire's description. "Well," he says, looking at Bahorel again. "Has Grantaire seen this?"

He knows Enjolras hasn't, or else Enjolras would have told Combeferre, as Combeferre will tell him. But Combeferre already knows that when he does, he will also suggest that Enjolras need not read this book himself.

Date: 2015-01-19 07:35 am (UTC)From: [personal profile] wings_of_a_swan
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"Yes, it is well written." An understatement. The prose is beautiful, sometimes stunning.

"I--I would want to read the whole thing," says Combeferre, surprising himself as he says it. But it's true. "The book is so sprawling, so ambitious. I can tell as much even from the little I've looked at. It would be worth seeing how much it encompasses." A Bishop in Digne, a convict named Valjean, Fantine the hapless grisette, Marius Pontmercy, and, strewn somewhere in the middle, the Amis de l'ABC.

"As you say--some problems. Hugo's politics evidently changed, if he could write about us with such obvious sympathy. But you can still see some of the old sensibility there, can you not? I haven't yet read the part where he talks of Louis-Philippe, of course, but that attitude, that sense of--of class allegiance--seems present elsewhere in the book as well."

So Bossuet is to blame for the satyr, hmmm? Combeferre shakes his head. "And I don't envy Bossuet that conversation with Grantaire."

Date: 2015-01-20 04:08 am (UTC)From: [personal profile] wings_of_a_swan
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"Decency, Bahorel?"

Bahorel talking of decency makes Combeferre laugh, but it also makes him frown, and pause.

"I may still mean to read it," he says, slowly. "Surely--it is a fictional account, even if reliable in spots--and any peeking in windows has already been done by Hugo, who has told the world what he's seen. And...is this work renowned? Influential? If so, then there's nothing private about this account anymore. It has become a social force, and its subjects regain no privacy by anyone declining to read it." Or so Combeferre thinks for the moment. He intends to mull it over some more before reading the whole book.

"And if there's information on the spy in there, well, we may need to know it." The spy may be a neutralized force in Milliways, or he may not. Combeferre isn't certain.

Date: 2015-01-20 04:40 am (UTC)From: [personal profile] wings_of_a_swan
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Combeferre nods. "I'll keep that in mind, of course, should I read it." It's a responsibility, possessing information that others believe to be private.

Then he frowns. "What do you mean, it may not be a memoir? Do you mean Hugo may have deliberately altered the story, rather than writing about anyone's memories?"

Date: 2015-01-20 04:57 am (UTC)From: [personal profile] wings_of_a_swan
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Combeferre flinches. He'd forgotten, briefly, that Enjolras and Courfeyrac were from an 1832 barricade slightly divergent from his own, and that it had diverged thanks to their own efforts and Bossuet's. Not truly forgotten, of course, but it had slipped from the forefront of his mind.

It's eerie to think of. Combeferre doesn't especially enjoy eeriness.

"An alternative Hugo--from a time that no longer exists, because we changed it?" (Does that mean that Enjolras and Courfeyrac, in some theoretical way, no longer exist, since they're from a future whose past was changed?)

"No, I didn't see Father Christmas," Combeferre continues. Though he was both surprised and intrigued to learn of the old legend's existence.

Date: 2015-01-21 03:30 am (UTC)From: [personal profile] wings_of_a_swan
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"Are you saying...that this is a place where legends become real? Or that there are other worlds, where our legends are real, and they become our legends because...because of what? Travel between worlds?"

Combeferre is guessing now. It's fairly clear that Bahorel is driving at something. But Combeferre's not quite sure what yet.

Date: 2015-01-21 04:20 am (UTC)From: [personal profile] wings_of_a_swan
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"Could ideas travel? Meaning--do ideas have physical substance of a kind, perhaps of...aether?" That sounds rather doubtful, almost medieval, but aether isn't the only option. Energy, perhaps. Electricity or magnetism. Combeferre has not read nearly enough about the physics of the future.

"You are implying, if I understand you right, that the Victor Hugo who wrote Les Misérables is a Victor Hugo in a different world, a world in which you and I are like Father Christmas--ideas that have bled through."

Combeferre is captivated by this.

"As for what I think is happening--I think it must be that there are worlds in which there are--copies of us, or versions of us. Enjolras and Courfeyrac are proof of that. They continue to exist despite us having altered their past. They did not wink out of existence. Yet we exist too, you and I, sharing their past up to 1830, and then diverging afterwards. So..." Combeferre takes a breath. Speaking of any version of Enjolras or Courfeyrac winking out of existence is--a shock. Even in the hypothetical. Still, he presses on. "It seems to me that--perhaps our alterations in 1830 created a new world? So there are two worlds with different versions of us, one that the Enjolras and Courfeyrac here in Milliways hail from, and one that we hail from."

Combeferre looks at the ceiling, and then at Bahorel, knowing how mad he sounds. "And if there are two worlds, two sets of us--might not there be many worlds, many sets of everyone, including Victor Hugo? Though the question of how ideas travel from one to the other, well, that's not something I have any theory on just yet."

Prouvaire would, Combeferre knows with a sudden stab of pain. Prouvaire would have theories, or rather, he would have fancies. About poets, and mystics, and how they perceive dimensions beyond the ordinary.

He does not say as much to Bahorel.

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